i enjoy having friends with such open minds. shoop da woop
2009-03-25 06:50 am (UTC)
if a consciousness can exist in only one dimensional self at a time does that imply that it can and does move between dimension selves. and if so would it jumped to radically different self and wouldn't that transition be disorienting.
if not then I pose the question what is the purpose of pondering the existence of multi-dimensional selves if they are not accessible.
mathematically speaking it would seem highly unlikely that you might meet another conscious person.
laslty i argue that no matter what your reality chose and consequence are the same. i talk about this in my new book, where one character believes he's dreaming and the other says that even if he were should he make his decisions any differently. death in the dream could me death in "reality". besides the fact that you have to assume (in your theory) that since you are aware that you are in your own relative "actual" dimension and so any poor choices lead to consequences that you must endure.
-dave (radha's husband)
2009-03-25 06:19 pm (UTC)
Dave, I like you already :) and I'll answer your questions, in order, to the best of my reasoning so far.
Yes, consciousness does move from one dimensional self to another. Take a linear time line for example. One hour ago, you were conscious of yourself at that time, or more accurately, that point in the dimension of time. Right now, you are conscious of yourself at a different point in time. Even without alternate realities to our own, we can see that just in the dimension of time, where each moment contains a copy of our body, our consciousness is only present in one of those copies, but it is constantly moving from one copy to anther as what we experience as time is actually just forward momentum of our consciousness in the 4th dimension.
No, the transition from one self to another would not be disorienting. The disorientation, as I would believe, would come from knowing you were suddenly displaced from one situation and put into another. This would require having a memory of past situations to compare them to the present. As we've discovered through surgery, memory is a physical representation of the past, manifested in the brain. Not part of what whatever consciousness is. If, for some reason, we were to jump from our brain to a completely different person's brain, we would be unaware of the change, believing that we had always been that different person, because that brain has it's own memories of the past, and we would no longer have access to memories in the brain we had just jumped from.
The purpose of pondering the existence of multi-dimensional selves is because they ARE accessable. However, we seem to only have access to those selves if they are directly adjacent to our coordinates in the 7th dimension AND ahead of us in the 4th dimension as we move through it.
I'm not sure I understand your last question as it was intended, but I will answer it as I interpreted it. First, if you say no matter which reality you chose, all consequences would be the same, you'd essentially be saying that the 4th dimension is the highest order dimension, is linear, and the 5th, 6th, 7th, ect... dimensions don't exist. As the existance of those dimensions is the assumed basis of my thinking, this question would be outside the scope of this topic. Second, if instead you are saying that all actions have logical responces (cause and effect), I would agree with you. However, if your consciousness chooses to inhabit a copy of its brain that jumps off a cliff, or instead chooses to inhabit a copy of it's brain that does not, I belive the arrangement of matter in the first 3 dimensions would be very different between those two scenarios.
2009-03-30 05:33 pm (UTC)
Imagining the Tenth Dimension
Hi Dave, this is Rob Bryanton, creator of the animation you linked to above. The version you've linked to is a copy of a copy, created by a fan who removed my opening/closing credits to shorten the duration of the animation enough to post it on his youtube account. A much better quality (and freely downloadable) version of the animation is at http://www.revver.com/video/99898/imagining-the-tenth-dimension/
I love the discussions you get into in this blog entry, as they are strongly related to my own thinking as I created this project. The animation presents the ideas from chapter one of my book of the same name, and I have an active blog where I discuss the huge cloud of ideas that spring from this way of visualizing reality: I have now posted a link to your musings above in the Interesting Links section of my tenth dimension blog ( www.tenthdimension.com/blog ).
If you enjoyed the above animation, you might also enjoy the over 200 other videos I've posted at YouTube which discuss related concepts about the nature of reality and our participation as conscious observers. Just search for videos by my channel at Youtube, 10thdim .
I like the way your mind work, Dave! Thanks for your valuable contributions to the discussion.
2009-03-31 07:14 am (UTC)
Re: Imagining the Tenth Dimension
Hi Rob, thank you so much for creating that video, it's one of the few things I've encountered in my adult life that's had life-changing impacts on the way I see the world.
It's great that you've fostered a community around these ideas and I'm anxious to see what they've discussed so far. My mind is still dizzy with thought. I don't know how you found my blog, but I'm glad you did.
Thanks for adding me to your Interesting Links section!